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As far as I know (I don't know much about young people here) we don't have the same trend here in Europe, but I'm sorry to say we share the same impression.

I mean, maybe we don't (well, let's say 'not everyone') see the US as a 'capitalistic hell', but we all know the 'American Dream' comes with the heavy 'basically no social security' trade-off. Everybody here seems to despise taxes, but everybody loves being able to go to the hospital from time to time, for themselves or their kids, and I've basically almost never met someone whose dream was to emigrate to the US.

As for the foreign policy, yes, your actual government is clearly a PR disaster, but there's also some sort of silent consensus here on the fact that they're only speaking and doing without manners (brutally) the same things the US governments have been 'politely' doing for the last 60 years.

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While this piece offers an interesting perspective on internet trends, it lacks relevant data and robust argument analysis.

Broadly speaking, while multiple data points in this article show how unequal the United States' wealth distribution is compared to Europe, there are no data points illustrating the Chinese wealth distribution by itself or in comparison with anything else. An easy inclusion could have been the GINI coefficients of the two countries: 41.8 in the US vs 36.0 in China (per World Population Review). These data, while basic, would have done more to support your argument than the graphs you did include.

On a more detailed level, you omitted much of the information contained in the Guardian article you cited. Amy Hawkins describes several of the reasons for an 'apparent' absence of a kill-line in China compared to the United States:

-Social support for homeless/jobless people is stronger in China and helps alleviate harms from the very high youth unemployment rate.

-State-sponsored media is actively pushing the narrative that things are worse in the US to (theoretically) stoke nationalism and distract from economic problems at home. There was a documented case where state media used an example of a homeless man down on his luck in 'the US' who turned out to actually live in London.

-The homelessness data in China are less reliable because of the way the passport system operates, which results in millions of people being not counted as homeless simply due to leaving their municipality of birth.

Your article did not mention any of these points. If this was accidental, I hope that you would do more research for your next article. If this was intentional, I would question your ethics. Between the incomplete data inclusion and subsequent glazing of the PRC, I would almost wonder if you were paid to write this article by a propaganda arm of the Chinese government. I am no fan of severe inequality in the US, but I would hope that we can acknowledge the faults of the PRC at the same time.

All the above notwithstanding, I do enjoy reading your substack and look forward to your future posts.

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